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marchelzo
There you go, an afternoon project that will increase your productivity when complete.
pulse
pyon, why not chrome
:)
(:
thecha
pyon: also it has libre js which leaves you in more control over scripts
pyon
pulse: Chrome is broken too. Every time I press C-S-<del>, it opens a new tab.
pulse
thecha, disgusting
thecha
it has some sort of filter that preventsome known bad scripts
pyon
pulse: Chrome doesn't support my compulsive history-deleting tendencies.
thecha
icecat?
pulse
pyon, that doesn't mean it's broken :D
thecha
pulse?
pyon
pulse: It's broken.
pulse
pyon, no way
chrome is king
:D
Denommus
pyon: have you tried Palemoon?
pyon
Denommus: Yeah.
pulse
thecha, `libre js`
pyon
Actually, I might try Palemoon again.
Pent
icecat is fine right now, they just had a release
last week.
thecha
pulse why?
marchelzo
pyon: tried dwm?
dwb*
pyon
marchelzo: I don't remember having tried it, will check it out.
pulse
`GNU LibreJS aims to address the JavaScript problem described in Richard Stallman's article The JavaScript Trap. LibreJS is a free add-on for GNU IceCat and other Mozilla-based browsers. It blocks nonfree nontrivial JavaScript while allowing JavaScript that is free and/or trivial.`
my sides
thecha
pulse?
pulse
i don't
even
jontxu
dwb is not maintained anymore
kadoban
I wonder what that means & it allows JS based on license? Based on what's not obfuscated maybe?
marchelzo
luakit then
pulse
i think it means it breaks 90% of modern web
gg wp
pyon
pulse: From that description, that LibreJS thing seems interesting, actually.
kadoban
pulse: I'm rather fine with that, I use noscript anyway, heh.
thecha
pulse i dindt have any problems with ciecat sofar
icecat
pulse
(Action) raises eyebrows
pyon
pulse: Although I don't care much about software freedom, it's true that free software tends to respect the user more.
marchelzo
What is "trivial" javascript?
pyon
marchelzo: JavaScript that doesn't do much.
pulse
marchelzo, *shrug*
thecha
stuff that is esily understoof
pulse
i'd like to know that too
thecha
understood
Twey
It's defined in https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
Read before you mock :รพ
pulse
i trust chrome's sandbox far more
than GNU's whatever
pyon
pulse: Good for you. Both Chrome and Firefox have crashed horribly on me during the last 3 days.
jontxu
I saw this alternative/successor to dwb and the likes yesterday, seems interesting https://github.com/The-Compiler/qutebrowser
marchelzo
[console.log][0]('foo') // uh-oh! this is non-trivial!
pulse
pyon, how?
chrome doesn't crash for me ... ever
maybe it crashed once
probably did something stupid
firefox too
pyon
pulse: I don't know the technical specifics. The browser just got stuck running some piece of sh*tty JavaScript.
pulse
they're both good browsers
marchelzo
or maybe he meant {l:console.log}['l']('foo')
pulse
pyon, yeah, that happens
but you can usually close the tab
without much problem
xeno
applications today tends to be a lot more stable than they used to in general
pyon
pulse: The entire browser got stuck.
quux
I tried out NETSURF
pulse
pyon, weird
quux
seems pretty nice !
anyone tried it?
pulse
pyon, i deal with strange code a lot and whenever theres a freeze i can close the individual tab
it just goes white, i close it and it works again
pyon
I'm finally starting to consider disabling untrusted JavaScript.
pulse
i don't think i ever had a problem with that
markand
hello
pulse
pyon, why? it's sandboxed. ..
markand, ahoy-hoy
pyon
pulse: Because sandboxes don't prevent infinite loops.
pulse
infinite loops aren't exactly a high priority security risk
...usually
marchelzo
why are infinite loops a problem in javascript?
quux
you can still crash peoples browser
jontxu
pyon, NoScript?
quux
which is a real annoyance and hassle
pulse
if you took all stallman's advice you would be walking around with no phone, an outdated laptop, using text-based mail and a web browser that looks like it should belong in 1995
:P
quux
whether it's a security risk or not is a different matter
marchelzo
chrome runs every tab as a separate process, doesn't it? so infinite loops are no problem
Laaw
stallman is an idiot outside of his very specific wheelhouse
pyon
pulse: You see, I don't consider my smartphone and tablet to be all that great.
pulse
not to mention sandals
pyon, i do
my smartphone is great
Laaw
you'd eat your own heel flesh too
pyon
pulse: Also, what I wear is entirely up to me.
pulse
pyon, true dat
Laaw, lol, i remember that
Laaw
ewwwwwww
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